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New Telescopes, Colour Questions!

Discussion in 'Goldfish Conversation' started by Natasha., Jan 7, 2018.

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Are you a fan of chocolate and lavender colours?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Indifferent, I prefer a quality fish

  4. Indifferent, it's all about personality

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  1. Natasha.

    Natasha. Member

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    I picked up 3 young telescopes from a LFS yesterday. I pulled the 3 mainly for their colours, and I hope I will be able to groom them to be reasonable adults. They are 2-2.5 inches tip to tail and these colours are rare in Canada, so I don't think I did too badly for $22 altogether. I believe the first two are chocolate and also lavender and chocolate, but the last one is puzzling me. He is a pale yellow/lavender colour, I thought maybe albino but he doesn't quite match Google images.

    Anybody have any insights as to what colour he is? I also added pictures of the others to compare and confirm their colour.
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  2. Hunter

    Hunter Active Member

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    I personally would guess he's gonna acquire a spot or two of other colors, the more chocolate one looks like it will have the heaviest change to my eyes I had a solid black butterfly turn into a stunning tri-color in a few short months (she even had a phase where she had a mustache)
    21034246_1761369530539855_226174727388565916_n.jpg -> Burst_Cover_GIF_Action_20171002221209.gif -> 24131284_1869138493096291_487694846331294200_n.jpg This is Brae, Brae forgot the store sold her as a moor... Brae did remember that I didn't buy that one bit
     
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  3. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    very cool color. I believe it is called leucistic. which basically means a very pale color fish with red eyes. It would be albino if the fish was all white.
     
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  4. csoth1

    csoth1 Well-Known Member

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    Technically albinism is the lack of melanin pigmentation specifically. Humans don't have other skin pigmentation so we're all white without melanin. Goldfish have multiple pigment types so they can still be colored and albino. Most of @bkrhodesva albino veils and bubble eyes are that peach color. Leucistic means having diminished melanin versus albinism being the complete lack of melanin. In both cases though, it's still specifically relating to black pigment.
     
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  5. bkrhodesva

    bkrhodesva Professional Breeder

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    Spot on Chris. My fish are albino because they have lost melanin, but they still retain the red pigment which gives them the peach color. The SUPER white albinos lack melanin and red.
    Bryan
     
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  6. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    would you not call it lutino
     
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  7. Natasha.

    Natasha. Member

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    Great input everyone, thanks!

    I have also consulted a facebook goldie group and it seems that lutino is technically the correct name (no melanin, but retains reds/yellows and has red eyes), but it appears that this is going around as "albino" and "red eyed" in the trade.

    Apparently lutinos are known for poorer health so I just hope I can keep this trio intact, and maybe in a year or two I will be able to start up some breeding with these more unusual colours that aren't really seen in Canada. I'm just so in love with these little peanuts!
     

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