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Ryukins with butterfly (tosakin) tail?

Discussion in 'Goldfish Breeds' started by Bluegoldfishdream, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. Bluegoldfishdream

    Bluegoldfishdream Member

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    butterfly tail or broadtail?
     
  2. afnaveils

    afnaveils Goldfish breeder

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    I'd say butterfly tails but why take the ryukin version when the telescope version exists? But that's me ...
    Similarly, why take the butterfly version of a ryukin when tosakins exist?
     
  3. Tedster

    Tedster Breeder

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    I agree with you Gerard!
     
  4. tObi

    tObi Well-Known Member

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    Wow, can we have a side view pics too?
     
  5. MikeM

    MikeM Active Member

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    so, it sounds like you would prefer the butterfly telescope and the tosakin over the butterfly ryukin? any particular reason or is that just a preference? I've heard that tosakin are a little harder to raise due to things like water requirements. Also, I'm interested in some information on BEP. I understand that you have a US location as well? Hope you don't mind all the questions, but newbies have lots of questions. Thanks
     
  6. afnaveils

    afnaveils Goldfish breeder

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    Well, it's really a matter of taste and availability in your area/country. Given the choices, I would personally choose a butterflytail telescope or a tosakin over a butterflytail-ish/tosakin-ish ryukin. Don't get me wrong, the latter is still a nice fish and probably more hardy and easier to care for.

    I'm in Canada but really fortunate to be able to get BEPs from the US.

    Don't hesitate to ask questions! That's how we learn!
     
  7. harzan

    harzan Professional Breeder

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    Interesting that you are bringing up this line of thought Gerard, but I see it the other way around. So just preference. Telescopic eyes are cool in few numbers or an accent to a tank of a grade fish. A whole pond or tank of them are not so interesting, unless you have many colors and scale types. My guess on the tail type is that the breeders are using the tosa to bring the butterfly back, just a guess.
     
  8. Virginia ranchu

    Virginia ranchu Professional Breeder

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    These are nice looking. Personally, I like the divided tail better than the fused tails of tosakins. I'm not sure what the quality is of available tosakin, but these would be a good alternative.
     

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