Hey Guys, Check it out.

[ak47_chicago]

Hey Guys, enjoy. I knew, it is a chinese website and you might not understand. But you can click each of the link to see some beautiful goldfish that offer from China. I saw alot of great one from the pictures.

http://www.lanshou.net/ad_zhiyuan.php?authorid=2850

[Ranchu Rancher]

Great find. great Fish.

gregg

[mattpadrigan]

what would you say about the ranchu shown on this website? they look quite different from the japanese... what would you guys say about then?

[suphi]

Good find, lots of beautiful fish.

These are side-view ranchu (or Chinese Lionchu as some people would call them).

[suphi]

http://www.lanshou.net/read.php?tid=110848&keyword=

The oranda above is quite amazing.

[bigbettadan]

Yes, not good ranchu......

Dan

[Ranchu Rancher]

Dan; I am confused with your statement. Are you only referring to the two white ranchu? If you go back and look at 01-01-10. Those side view I think look great. Nice backs good head growth and incredible colors.


Gregg

[small_ranchu]

Dan,
Do you remember the user called "ranchulover" from that forum? lol

[bigbettadan]

I remember.....LOL

Gregg, I don't consider "side view" ranchu as good ranchu.......

Dan

[small_ranchu]

They are starting their TVR production line as well.

http://www.lanshou.net/read.php?tid=109478&keyword=

[Cincy Ranchu]

I agree, if you look at the many baskest and groups of Ranchu on this page, it is obvious that they are very near to perfecting TVR. The SVR are great, Dave Mandley and I have been looking at these and sinc ethey are not miniproducers but more like the "big box" store of Ranchu they will take over.

Hey Dan, you know, just like the Thai did with Bettas!

[afnaveils]

They are starting their TVR production line as well.

http://www.lanshou.net/read.php?tid=109478&keyword=

John..., Andrew can you give us your appreciation of these fish?:me: :donot: Don't let them being from a China farm bias your appreciation. Thank you!

[bigbettadan]

Those a nice, I did not see that thread till now.....

Yes, Gary, I am bitter.....LOL But it is my fault. I did not turn down the cash when they were offering a grand a pair for bettas...

Dan

[ak47_chicago]

Hey Guys, just try to helping you guys understand what they are talking about. You can copy and paste the link here. Then yahoo will Translate the chinese webpage to english.

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ ( Please make sure select Chinese simp - english)

for example. Here is the topview ranchu page you guys what looking at and now it is in english.

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lanshou.net%2Fread.php%3Fti d%3D109478%26keyword%3D&lp=zh_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

[judge]

Now thats the top view I wouldn't mind having...

I think Chinese have done it... We will see more of these at cheaper price...

[johnatoranchu]

John..., Andrew can you give us your appreciation of these fish?:me: :donot: Don't let them being from a China farm bias your appreciation. Thank you!

The fish have nice bodies and thick caudal peduncles. For such large fish - I calculate that, unless the hand is very small, these fish must be 5 inches or so in length, the hoods lack development. The tails too seem small and perhaps rather stiff. Given that these fish are said to be a year old (I assume that they were photographed as Tosai), compare them to the fish discussed in the "Nice fish development" thread. There is a world of difference between them in terms of development, tail and colour. The Chinese fish are clearly way behind the Thai one but I guess there are degrees of excellence so in some respects this could be seen as an unfair comparison. My rationale for making it is that ALL the fish I saw on the Chinese site had the same merits (body and strength of caudal peduncle) and the same demerits (hood development. size of tail and colour) suggesting that what these demerits are general failings in the gene pool, particularly as they are almost certainly the best they have bred. None of us doubt that the Chinese are coming and it could be just a question of time. But, just as the world seems to be catching up, I'm sure the Japanese will change the goal posts in Ranchu development in exactly the same way as they have done and continue to do with Koi.
John

[East Ozeki Ranchu]

Gentlemen,

They are nice strong fish and the scaling is good. In general my comments are similar to John's but the discussion appears to assume that the Chinese are producing Ranchu of this quality en masse - which they may well be. But, I cannot see confirmation of that from this page - indeed we are looking at a number of pictures of only 4 Ranchu..if they are mass producing them why only show us 4??...how do you know that these 4 are not imported from Japan or elsewhere?

Regards

Andrew

[bigbettadan]

I wonder if some of these proportion issues may be due to rapid growth..... Good hood development takes quality food and time, whereas body growth can be rushed. Genetics do play a huge role, but I also wonder about methods of production......

Oh, the day good ranchu become a cheap mass produced animal is the day I move on to something else. But the more I learn about ranchu, the less I see that day coming.....

Dan

[ak47_chicago]

Hey Dan,

Give the store a call. The last time My brother call the owner of the store or the farm owner. They are asking for $50 dollars per fish. They can import to USA too. Do you have imports license? Of course u pay for the shipping and fee.

Anyway.. take care.