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small_ranchu
04-27-2010, 03:44 PM
Recently I have seen NYGold's post of feeding his ryuking egg white. He has a good result too. Question come into my mind is what is the difference between egg white and bloodworm?

I know bloodworm is already proven method for head growth and use by so many professional/hobbyist.

bigbettadan
04-27-2010, 03:55 PM
egg white has one of the highest BV value of any protein source. Which means if you ingest 9 grams of EW protein, you get close to 9 grams of actual use by the body. How this applies to fish growth, I don't know. I do know EWs are a valuable protein source to us humans. I have never tried feeding it to fish either. What was his prep/serving method to his fish again?

Dan

nygold
04-27-2010, 04:44 PM
I was just looking for a way to add protein to my fishes diet.
I read on another webpage about using steamed egg. But I have no idea how to make that. I just used a hard boiled egg, discarded the yolk and chopped the egg white into tiny squares. I can't really think of anything with such high protein that's inexpensive and easily available. While were on the subjuct how do you guys feel about earth worms? When ever I get my hands on some I throw them in my tank. The fish go nuts over earth worms. I almost had over 100 worms today but I was with my boss and he would have given me a hard time if I was collecting worms. There may have even been 200 worms all in one spot, it's bothering me that I wasn't able to get them.
Anyhow I'm curious to hear what other people think about egg whites and earth worms.

nygold
04-27-2010, 04:52 PM
I found some Earthworm info.
According to measurements, the crude protein in dry earthworms reaches about 70%, while in wet earthworms about 10-20%. The amino acids of earthworm protein are complete, especially the contents of Glutamic acid, Leucine and Lysine, among which Arginine is higher than fish meal, and Tryptophan is 4 times higher than in blood powder, and 7 times higher than in cow liver. Earthworms are rich in Vitamin A and Vitamin B. There is 0.25 mg of Vitamin B1 and 2.3 mg of Vitamin B2 in each 100 g of earthworms. Vitamin D accounts for 0.04%-0.073% of earthworms’ wet weight.

small_ranchu
04-27-2010, 04:55 PM
I almost had over 100 worms today but I was with my boss and he would have given me a hard time if I was collecting worms. There may have even been 200 worms all in one spot, it's bothering me that I wasn't able to get them.

Plz tell me the location, if it is in public place. lol

nygold
04-27-2010, 05:05 PM
Plz tell me the location, if it is in public place. lol

I plan on going back maybe tomorrow if I score the mother load I'll drop half off with you.

small_ranchu
04-27-2010, 05:20 PM
I plan on going back maybe tomorrow if I score the mother load I'll drop half off with you.

Great!!! It is the benefit of finding local hobbyist. :woohoo:

Let's get back on Egg White VS bloodworm issue. :)

thomasn
04-27-2010, 05:35 PM
there was this thread about steamed egg (http://goldfishkeepers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266&highlight=steamed) including a demo on how to make.

Ichthius
04-27-2010, 05:51 PM
Thanks for the info on the eggs. I have ducks (www.donaldstreetducks.blogspot.com) who harvest bug, worms, Daphna, duckweed from the yard and make us two beautiful eggs a day.

I think earth worms are one of the best goldfish foods out there. I collected a quart in my front yard in about 10 minutes last night. It was relatively warm and very wet which made the worms come out in droves.

I've been keeping them in coconut choir but they go bad so last night I used scissors to cut them up and froze the pieces in zip locks so the nutrition is preserved and I've got worms to feed when the worms aren't out and about.

nygold
04-27-2010, 06:24 PM
Freezing them is a good idea.
I think if I had to pick just 1 food to feed my fish I think earthworms would be the one.
Fred I know you want to talk about eggs and bloodworms but I don't think there is much more. Don't forget I used egg whites as a suppliment not there staple diet.

small_ranchu
04-27-2010, 06:27 PM
I just want to find out that can we substitute bloodworm with egg-white or not.

* Spending more than 2 16oz pack of Hikari bloodworm per week.

suphi
04-27-2010, 07:46 PM
I just want to find out that can we substitute bloodworm with egg-white or not.

* Spending more than 2 16oz pack of Hikari bloodworm per week.

^ For the first 90 days of age, probably not (at least not for ranchu). If it works as well it would've been done widely in Japan, Thailand, China, etc. as this is a much easier and cheaper route than bloodworms/daphnia.

When they're above certain ages you can probably feed whatever you want. My fish, for example, barely get any bloodworms these days (mostly Saki Hikari). Despite that, their headgrowths remain pretty good.

Cincy Ranchu
04-28-2010, 01:18 AM
I have been using eggs ( whole) in my gell food for years, it seems to be good, not sure about a repalcement for BW. 5 pounds a week for me is kind of stiff. I find my self feeding the small fish BW and only giving to fish with wens occasionally.

I also like dried BW in 1 lb bags from Aqueon, a pound lasts a long time.

sc569
04-28-2010, 02:06 AM
I have made crepes with lots of egg white mixed in.

Pancakes can be made with egg whites only - no egg yolk.

The fish really tear into the chunks. Hard boiled egg white is not easy for the fish to handle as it is very dense.

I believe that this food is likely to be of higher protein quality than any of the prepared chows.

If you use good flour and fresh eggs, then the fish grow really well.

Sort of like live food but just lightly cooked. The stuff also freezes OK.

I never tried steamed eggs. I think anyone can make pancakes though.

nygold
04-28-2010, 03:37 PM
I went back to the worm spot today and they were gone.
Oh well maybe next time.

William Tricker Inc.
04-30-2010, 12:39 AM
growing your own redworms is not that hard if u have room for a compost pile...would anyone be interested in egg flake food? I have used it on young fish, and sometimes adults for variety

Cindy
04-30-2010, 10:12 AM
I do prefer live earthworms for feeding but a Great alternative is Earthworm Flake food by UltraClear.
Check out this link:

http://www.tricker.com/prod-p-ultraclearearthworm

Price is right and the fish get all the benifits of earthworms.

I've used this food for about a year now and like the fact that even though I am an overfeeder, It dosen't mess up the water like regular flakes do. I also like as a first food for baby goldfish.