Prazi or Levamisole?

[Jikin Junkie]

Have some guppies (thankfully not my goldfish) with camallanus worms in a 10 gallon. Don't know how they contracted them but I definitely don't want a widespread breakout in my fishroom! What is the strongest Med to use and the best way to keep them from spreading around the fish room? I would be devastated if my goldfish caught them!

[Cincy Ranchu]

I like Prazi powder, this materail is difficult to get in solution, about 18 months ago I started placing the powder into a tablespoon of Vodka prior to addition, this works very well to get into solution...

[Corrie]

What is the strongest Med to use and the best way to keep them from spreading around the fish room?

Flubendazole and clorox

[Jikin Junkie]

All nets and equipment in a bleach bath. I couldn't find prazi but our local farm store has plenty of levamisole (pig dewormer/cancer medication). I'm wondering if I should dose every tank as a precaution or just the infected ones? Has anyone else dealt with this parasite?

[suphi]

Levamisole should work well. Since it's internal, medicated food might be the best route. I think goldfishconnection sells Medi-Worm, not sure about dosing for guppies though.

[Cincy Ranchu]

Jonesfish.com they will over night it

[Ichthius]

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=12788&prodid=25251&catid=3

[Jikin Junkie]

Well Prazipro didn't work. Went to the farm store for levamisole and they no longer carry it. Went to every farm store in the area and no one has it! I'll try and post some pics of what this nasty parasite looks like. So far only two 10 gallon tanks of guppies are infected. Rest of the fish room looks okay. I ordered the food from Foster's and Smith. Should be in this week. Thanks for everyone's help, maybe this will be useful to others in the future!

[Corrie]

I'm not surprise, I can't get Prazi to work either.

You're dealing with a nematode, Flubendazole is going to work best for you.
You can find that on the internet.

Jungle used to make a parasite food that contained levamisole.
I don't know if they still do.
Fish don't like it.
Flavor it with some fresh squeezed garlic and they stand a better chance of eating it.

If you put something in the water, remember fresh water fish do not drink a lot of water. Salt will help with that.

If you get them to start passing worms, move them to a clean tank every day.

Good luck
Corrie

[afertuna]

Corrie can fluebinol be used in water with salt?

[Corrie]

Sure, it's used on salt water fish in salt water.

What are you wanting it to do? What are you treating?

Salt will make fresh water fish drink more water. It you are trying to get Flubenol inside the fish, that will help.

[johnatoranchu]

I'm not surprise, I can't get Prazi to work either.


If you put something in the water, remember fresh water fish do not drink a lot of water. Salt will help with that.

Corrie

Corrie, your above post intrigues me. If salt helps goldfish "drink more water" then clearly the addition of salt to water which has been medicated should help the fish recover quicker on the basis that it is drinking more medicine. I often use salt with medications but only when the medication is deemed suitable for both freshwater fish and marines as I have been told that it is dangerous to use salt with medications such as formalin and formaldehyde which seem to be in most off-the-shelf remedies. Your thoughts and advice would be appreciated.
John

[Corrie]

damn! I took too long and the stupid time out thing took it all.

John, I'll try again later............

[Corrie]

Well that other post was full of $10 words like true teleost and osmoregulation, so I blew it.
so here's the short version.

John, regulating osmotic pressure is slower than adding salt. A true teleost, which I'm guessing carp are, will initially have higher (ammonia, urine, etc) in their blood which they will try to eliminate by drinking more water. Adding salt will slow down osmoregulation. So you have a short window of opportunity where you add salt and they initially will drink water.

Formalin is cheap, so it's everyone's first grab down here. Salt or fresh. It works fast or it doesn't work at all, so there's no need to keep the fish in it for a long time.
A trick to avoid the O2 thing, is to put it in a bag first, then shake the "****" out of it, then dump it in the system. If you have O2, blow the bag up with that.

No one uses Malachite Green any more. MG wrecks havoc on salt water fish and is too unpredictable in different systems, fresh and salt. Food fish guys for obvious reasons.

If I had to guess, I'd say the combination of MG and salt was a lot worse than formalin and salt. But it might just be a goldfish thing too. Snook, redfish, trout, sturgeon, etc etc farms use brackish well water. Which is just freshwater with salt in it. I know some of the goldfish/koi farms in Homestead/South Florida are also using well water with some salt in it. They all use formalin.

Corrie

[Corrie]

God Bless it Fred, fix that damn timeout thing, if I didn't save that last post, I would have lost it too:))2

[nygold]

Corrie the same thing happened to me yesterday.
On the second go around I typed it like I was typing an email and
then cut and pasted it into the message text area.
For now you can try that.

[johnatoranchu]

Many thanks Corrie.
John