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I took two of my fancies out for a photoshoot recently, and I was wondering what opinions any of you have as to their growth and development. The pictures are taken roughly a year apart, a few months less in the case of the telescope.
Of course, as a casual goldfish keeper, I'm pleased as punch that they are growing and healthy. I'm not as experienced with judging the conformation of goldfish, so any comments will be welcome. These two were just pet quality goldfish, bought from local pet stores.
First off is my Telescope:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/Phenomi/Goldies/IMG_1745.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/Phenomi/Goldies/IMG_4714.jpg
For her, all I can really see is that her fins should be a bit stronger. I was hoping she would show some orange or red under the black, but she has an almost lemon like head and points that can be quite hard to photograph.
And my Ranchu/Lionhead/Lionchu (?)
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/Phenomi/Goldies/P7160193.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/Phenomi/Goldies/IMG_4673.jpg[/QUOTE]
I've been trying to develop more head growth on this guy (feeding hikari Lionhead), and while there has been some, he's still a bit bald. I do like how his back has curved up a bit, though his tail angle seems a bit odd.
Lo-Fish
08-17-2010, 07:47 PM
I think they both look cool!
I have a Panda style colored Oranda (pet store quality) that started off like your Telescope Eye with strong black and white contrast and now it lost all of it's color too, is this normal? :youtellme:
I think they both look cool!
I have a Panda style colored Oranda (pet store quality) that started off like your Telescope Eye with strong black and white contrast and now it lost all of it's color too, is this normal? :youtellme:
I'm sure it's very normal. There are true pandas out there, but it's near impossible to find them in pet stores over here. Most of the 'Pandas' are simply young fish that have not lost all their baby black yet. I also heard that goldfish will hold their black better in outdoor conditions and with cooler water temperatures. My fish are indoors and kept on the warm end of the goldfish temperature spectrum, so that may be why she lost her black so quick.
nygold
08-17-2010, 08:41 PM
I think your fish look great.
I too have a panda that went ghost.
Is that a drinking glass those fish are in?
They look kind of small for one years growth.
My white/ panda is about a year old and is around palm size.
I think your fish look great.
I too have a panda that went ghost.
Is that a drinking glass those fish are in?
They look kind of small for one years growth.
My white/ panda is about a year old and is around palm size.
It's actually a large vase. For comparison, the lionchu (?) is currently just under 5 inches (12 cm) from his nose to the tip of his tail. They are not being groomed for show or powerfed, since I do not want to stress them out in the 33 G. However, I do not know if they were stunted or not before I got them. Hopefully I can get some more growth out of them when I move them to their new 80G :yess: tomorrow. Maybe then I can push up their feeding regimen a bit, what with all the extra water volume and filtration they are going to get!
nygold
08-18-2010, 11:32 AM
Nomi the fish look good.
It's hard for me to tell size in pictures without something for scale in the pictures. It looks like the fish are the same size in both pictures but they don't show any signs of stunting.
Also I have a square high-ball glass that's just like your vase and I can't get that small glass out of my head.
I had an Oranda in the past that was in a 35 gallon tank for over a year he didn't grow at all in about 4 or 5 months. When I put him is a bigger tank "BOOM" he started growing again.
I can't see why this can't happen to your fish.
opera
08-18-2010, 12:45 PM
If you still want to push the head growth on your ranchu, you can try bloodworm ($$) and see if there is any different. At this moment, no body knows if it is genetic.
Opera
suphi
08-18-2010, 01:14 PM
They can definitely catch up in size, given enough food and space. One of my TVR was very small for a one year old fish (kept indoor with the SVR with 2x/day feeding). I put him outdoor with the rest of the TVR early this year with 5x/day feeding regimen, now he's my 3rd biggest fish.
kendal
08-18-2010, 04:49 PM
Nomi the fish look good.
It's hard for me to tell size in pictures without something for scale in the pictures.
it looks to me like the ranchu eggfish guy started out about the size of a Mini Cooper—roughly 10 feet. he now looks a little bigger. my guess is 12 feet.
the telescope now appears to be about one-and-a-half stories high based on the house used for proportion—roughly 18 feet.
it looks to me like the ranchu eggfish guy started out about the size of a Mini Cooper—roughly 10 feet. he now looks a little bigger. my guess is 12 feet.
the telescope now appears to be about one-and-a-half stories high based on the house used for proportion—roughly 18 feet.
XD Yes, I am secretly raising giant goldfish which will enable me to RULE the WORLD! Muahahaha!
Anyway, thank you all for the information! I've got the 80G up and running, old water and filter all moved over, new filter running like a dream and the fish loving it from what I can tell. We do have a freezer there now, so I will absolutely get some bloodworms. I found a picture with my hand in it for comparison (in hindsight, I should have gotten some pictures with a ruler). Hope it helps a bit.
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/Phenomi/Goldies/IMG_4646.jpg
suphi
08-21-2010, 09:30 PM
That's not a bad size for indoor fish at one year. You can still make him much bigger if you feed 4-5x a day but watch for swim bladder issue if you power feed.
nygold
08-21-2010, 10:33 PM
I found a picture with my hand in it for comparison
WOW BIG difference with your hand in the picture the fish looks much bigger.
Too me anyway.
WOW BIG difference with your hand in the picture the fish looks much bigger.
Too me anyway.
XD Sorry about that, I didn't think about something for size comparison! I suppose I took it for granted that I knew what size my goldfish were.
That's not a bad size for indoor fish at one year. You can still make him much bigger if you feed 4-5x a day but watch for swim bladder issue if you power feed.
Thank you. I'm not going to be powerfeeding exactly, but I can feed them a bit more now, and I'm sure they will not mind! They do get their peas once a week, and other veggie treats, so I'm not too worried with SB. However, does anyone know the effects of bloodworms on the swim bladder? Will there be an issue with the increased protein?
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